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Did Sony just confirm the existence of Tony Stark in the Venom movie universe?


For comic book movie fans, the past few months have been both the best and the worst of times. Spider-Man: No Coming Home was a gift in that it not only completed Tom Holland’s first trilogy, but also brought all three Spideys together live from the cinema on the big screen. But then, as the hunter of Marvel and Sony’s Multiversal web epic – and a preview of what Sony has planned for its adjacent Venom universe – the latter studio introduced Marvel fans Morbius.

Starring Jared Leto as the kind-hearted doctor-turned-vampire, Morbius finally made its theatrical debut on April Fool’s Day. While it was to be Sony’s next film in its growing universe, Morbius a largely disappointed audience and significantly lowered expectations for the studio’s future projects.


While fans and critics have their grievances with MorbiusEditing, story, and some of its performances, one of the biggest objections was to the film’s two post-credits scenes and their lackluster, if not offensive, attempt to tie into the MCU.

However, for fans who have been personally victimized by Morbius‘ post-credits sequences, some detail – coupled with a corresponding theory – can help with the frustration. Could it even offer a little hope too?

Not what the doctor ordered


Before diving into the good news and its possibilities, here is a reminder of what happened in Morbius‘ post-credits story beats.


In the first scene, Spider-Man: HomecomingAdrian Toomes aka the Vulture, played by Michael Keaton, suddenly finds himself in jail far from home. Apparently, this strange circumstance is courtesy of this multiversal purple rift in the skies of No coming homethe third act.

Everyone knows how much sense that makes given the settings of the recent MCU movie.

The second scene shows Morbius meeting Toomes, where he not only invites the doc to team up, but also believes that Spider-Man is to blame. The most glaring question in this exchange, however, is why he’s now wearing his mechanical vulture costume.


Spider-Man Vulture Homecoming

The suit, which was made from salvaged metal and Chitauri technology from The Battle of New York in the MCU, wasn’t with Toomes when he crossed universes. But he wears a very similar costume when seen talking with Michael Morbius.

While this appears to be another plot and example of Sony surveillance, there could be another answer.

Michael Keaton’s Vulture has a Stark Tech suit?

Michael Keaton, Morbius

While Toomes appears to be sporting his vulture costume from Spider-Man: Homecoming in this Morbius scene, there are some differences, including the presence of additional thrusters.


It’s actually something that Morbius director Daniel Espinosa first pointed out when asked how Vulture got his signature costume, confirming that “It’s not quite the same costume as Back home and that Toomes is “a resourceful guy:”

“If you look closely, you’ll see it’s not quite the same suit as Homecoming. He’s a resourceful guy.”

Since the costume is definitely not the same as the one the public saw on “ingenious” Toomes door in Back home, he had to get the technology somewhere. And, since Toomes is new to the Venom/Morbius universe, he may not know where to get this technology unless it’s a familiar person or industry.

So here is a possibility. What if a variant of Tony Stark and Stark Industries also existed in this universe? Not only would this be the perfect revenge for Vulture given his distaste for Stark, but there’s already precedent.


After seeing Stark Tech at work in Spider-Man: No Coming Home, Andrew Garfield’s Electro from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 took an Arc Reactor and used it as his own personal upgrade. If Sony did it once, why not a second time?

Additionally, many fans are expecting Iron Man variants to arrive in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. It wouldn’t be a stretch for one of them to be of this dimension and likely different from their MCU counterpart.

Does Superior Iron Man come from the Venom universe?

Superior iron man

While Sony has yet to reveal which Spidey lives in its growing universe, in No coming homeMaguire’s Garfield and Peter Parkers have confirmed that the Avengers do not exist in their timeline.


Therefore, if a Tony Stark exists, he probably never built a suit in a cave from a box of scraps and had that exchange with Nick Fury. In fact, given his ego, he could be a villain or even the superior Iron Man.

In the comics, Superior Iron Man is the product of Marvel’s AXIS event, where comic book heroes got bad and villains got good. Of course, bad guys get good is something audiences have just seen recently.

Additionally, Superior Iron Man’s armor came from elements taken from a Symbiote, similar to Venom’s. Clearly, all the pieces are in place for a superior Iron Man to exist in Sony’s world.


Other Familiar Stark Industries Faces

Mysterio, Spider-Man: Far From Home

Michael Keaton’s Vulture isn’t the only Spider-Man antagonist whose villainous origin story is rooted in the deeds of Tony Stark.

Jake Gyllenhaal’s Quentin Beck (aka Mysterio) became a vengeful villain after Tony claimed his illusion technology and renamed it BARF If Stark Industries exists in the Venom/Morbius universe, why not a variant of Beck?

If so, this could explain why initial plans for Mysterio’s return were scrapped in No coming home. And, given that Mysterio misrepresented himself as a multiversal hero in Spider-Man: Far From Homeit would be completely normal for him to become a multiversal character all the way.


The existence of Stark-related variants could allow for other versions of familiar MCU faces, such as Happy Hogan, War Machine, and even Iron Man villains like Obadiah Stane or Stark Industries’ Justin Hammer.

A new Spider-Man and Stark relationship?

Iron Man, Spiderman

In the MCU, Tom Holland’s Spider-Man story was directly influenced by Robert Downey Jr.’s Iron Man. Man, it would be fascinating to see another Stark and Spidey team up.

It’s also worth noting that – unlike their respective villains – neither Maguire nor Garfield’s Peter Parkers have seen much, if any, Stark Tech in No coming home. Also, while Holland’s Peter mentioned battling Thanos in space, they are apparently unaware of Tony’s relationship with Peter and his sacrifice. End of Game instantaneous.


Therefore, either of these Spideys has the ability to interact with another Tony Stark and even reverse their roles. Who knows? Maybe Tobey’s Spidey won’t mentor a young web-slinger but rather a brilliant young inventor?

If not Stark Industries, what about Oscorp?

Morbius, Oscorp

Something worth noting is that Morbius‘ expressed interest in Norman Osborn of Willem Dafoe crossing paths with Michael Morbius one day. Not only is this a clue to Spidey’s existence in Sony’s new universe, but it’s also a clue to Oscorp’s potential continued presence in Sony’s Spider-Man timeline.

If so, it seems unlikely that Sony needs Stark Industries for the technology or as the catalyst to create villains. Additionally, having Oscorp serves to differentiate the world from Sony, especially in the wake of Dafoe’s Norman Osborn confirming that there is no Oscorp in the MCU.


Given these facts, what if Vulture actually used Oscorp technology to build its new suit? After all, from Vulture’s perspective, Oscorp and Stark Industries are similar in that they both have New York towers and are in the weapons and tech business. If so, it will be fascinating to see how the now-cured Norman Osborn could potentially get involved.

Has Sony already struck?

Morbius Marvel Characters

While the fan’s response to the disorderly manipulation of Morbius‘ the post-credits scenes are understandable and deserved. Given the Multiverse and Vulture’s new costume, Sony’s future storytellers have a lot on their plate.

The question, of course, is whether they will. Not only does the studio have a history of not capitalizing on its potential, but due to Morbius‘ poor reception, the future of Sony’s adjacent Marvel Universe is somewhat uncertain.


Since Kraven the hunterwith Aaron Taylor-Johnson, should follow Morbius and serve as the next chapter in this universe, it already faces an uphill battle. If it fails to attract positive audiences and reviews, the early days of Sony’s multiversal universe may, in fact, have been its last.

Morbius plays in theaters around the world.